This looks super cheap

"Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras" (jegoingout) 07/18/2019 at 11:32 • Filed to: None

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Like super bad cheap...

For Sweden > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:35

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It should be a better-than-average car in the Emerald Executive Aisle.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:36

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Calling it now, I think the C8 will be a massive fuck up and GM is gonna be pooched.

They can’t seem to do anything right and Ford/FCA are cannibalizing their bread and butter (trucks/pony cars) while ze Germans destroy Cadillac

way2blu does a rev update > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:38

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Why so serious? *cackles maniacally in fake plastic vent smile *

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > way2blu does a rev update 07/18/2019 at 11:38

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Accurate photo of GM as a brand

412GTI > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:39

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Is this the ATS replacement one or the CTS? God I can’t even remember the new names. 

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > 412GTI 07/18/2019 at 11:40

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Both? 

BeaterGT > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:41

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Did you expect it to grow some kidneys?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:42

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Yeah, super cheap camera in that potato.

CB > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:43

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I think it looks good.

Tripper > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 11:45

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I hate to say it but that is a sad and maybe perfectly correct early call. It never really crossed my mind that a mid engined Corvette could ever be a fuck up. Then I read that article on the FP about boomers that hate it etc...

I thought, “well fuck, no one but boomers buy new V ettes, how am I gonna get one for 30k a decade later?”

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Tripper 07/18/2019 at 11:47

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Do you know how many times my dad/mom and their boomer friends have said something to the effect of “blah blah can’t fit golf clubs blah blah” about a car?

TONS.

If your entire market is upper middle class white old people, IT SHOULD HOLD A GOLF BAG.

Shift24 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:47

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Didnt know Cadillac was gunning for the Acura and Infiniti crowd.

And to think we have the civic a hard time about plastic fake grill vents. Imo this is worse

gettingoldercarguy > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 11:49

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Basically the 2019 Camaro as a metaphor for the company?

HammerheadFistpunch > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:51

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what it looks like to me is Cadillac is 15 years behind the market trends. this should have been a crossover. no i don’t care if you hate them... if Cadillac wants to make it to through the crossover reversal to wagonhalla and ev Paradise it has to play the game that's being played now.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > CB 07/18/2019 at 11:52

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I think if you lost the two massive fake vents on either side, I’d agree.

MrSnrub > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 11:59

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I like it :(

It’s not the most “premium” looking color, and it’s dirty and not a very good quality picture. I mean, does this look that much better?

Of course, the BMW doesn’t have that awful fake panel on the C-pillar, but you can’t see that from the front.

Milky > 412GTI 07/18/2019 at 12:18

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CTS replacement, CT4 is a refreshed ATS.  

haveacarortwoorthree2 > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 12:19

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This is what happens when an Infiniti and a Camaro have a baby.

Under_Score > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 12:20

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I just saw some CarFax reports for newer Cadillacs this morning. Yeah, I’m not trusting them.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Tripper 07/18/2019 at 12:28

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Meh they all screamed at V6 F-150's and then again at aluminum F-150's, but they ended up throwing their money at it anyway.

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > CB 07/18/2019 at 12:35

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I like it too. I get the hate for the names, but the cars seem totally fine to me .

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 12:39

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The XT4 would like to talk to you about looking cheap.

Arrivederci > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 12:41

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Agree - it just looks * cheap* and this isn’t even from the angle showing that horrid plastic hunk of trim on the C pillar.  Overall it doesn’t look bad, but it’s starting to feel like they cut a ton of corners to get that MSRP.

and 100 more > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 12:42

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Glad they fixed the face on the Malibu.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 12:44

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You look super cheap

Tripper > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 12:58

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Same. My dad leaves his clubs at the place where he plays 99% of the time. So he got a 2017 F150 crew cab with the 6.5 foot bed  and a really nice tonneau cover so that the two pairs of golf shoes that ride back there have plenty of room, haha. In all seriousness he actually bought it for the one trip per year they take to the cabin which is almost equally as loony to me, but I had fun helping him find and buy the truck!

punkgoose17 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 12:59

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Sometimes you need to think of them as textured aerodynamic surfaces disguised as vents.

Tripper > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 07/18/2019 at 13:06

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Yea but people aren’t doing that with Silverados.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Tripper 07/18/2019 at 13:32

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This will be the sad consequence.

IF the Corvette is a failure because it was executed poorly, it won’t be about that, it will be blamed on being mid-engined, because that is the big gestalt shift in the corvette world.

A mid-engined car need not be a failure. A failure of a Corvette may not be related to the engine placement, but rather the failure of practical useability, looks, finish quality, and price.

But if it happens, it will almost invariably teach the WRONG lesson, and prevent any further mid-engined car project that is anywhere near affordable.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 07/18/2019 at 13:36

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Yeah, but that didn’t impact the capability of the f150.  It was just some marketing bs.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > Tripper 07/18/2019 at 13:40

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because Chevy’s 4 cylinder offering is awful, the new truck looks horrendous (in many people’s opinion) and Chevy has gone for a cylinder deactivation strategy, which competes quite well. So it’s no surprise to me that they aren’t selling a whole lot of trucks with anything smaller than a 5.3 V8.

Ford on the other hand only has one V8 in the lineup and on top of that they heavily promote the 2.7 and 3.5 EB.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 13:41

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Is the capability of the Corvette severely impacted by going mid-engine?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs 07/18/2019 at 13:43

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I’d argue, yeah. Can it hold clubs?

Can it hold a fat guy and his fat wife?

Can it take a scooter on the back deck?

Textured Soy Protein > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 14:01

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I absolutely HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE the C-pillars on this thing.

GM, have you learned nothing from the original Chevy Cruze?

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 14:29

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hold a scooter? This is a common requirement for Corvettes?

Chariotoflove > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 15:23

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I like the color, and I like the car.  I’m excited to see what these new cars are like.  I think they look slick.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Textured Soy Protein 07/18/2019 at 16:06

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As a friend pointed out, it’s such a Nissan like c pillar

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/18/2019 at 16:07

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That looks like a Chinese knock off

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 07/18/2019 at 16:07

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I try

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 07/18/2019 at 16:09

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yes. 

Arrivederci > MrSnrub 07/18/2019 at 16:15

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I’m not even remotely a BMW fan, but I’d have to say yes.  You do raise a good point about it not being the greatest photo, which certainly plays into it a bit.

AMC/Renauledge > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/18/2019 at 23:11

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I was an absolute GM apostle when it was deeply uncool in the 2006-12 period. I saw huge improvements in product, big movements in the right direction in terms of marketing, vehicles meeting their segment benchmarks, available performance options, etc.

Now I see it all slipping away. The first armor chink was the 2013 Chevy Malibu that improved on its predecessor exactly none. Then Cadillac continued its cavalcade of failure with the ATS, CTS gen 3, ELR, XTS, and then CT6. All of those programs were supposed to be bigger, meet the competition more closely, and move Cadillac back upmarket from value-priced luxury to the big-time. After billions were spent on unique platforms and endless marketing re-thinks, HQ moves, etc. Noooooope.

Now that GM has managed to piss away the Camaro’s commanding lead in the pony car segment against an 11 year-old Challenger and the Mustang, to the point where rumors are pretty solid it’ll be dead in a few years... it’s clear to me that they’ve completely lost the plot.

The new CT4 and CT5 give me no reason to think differently. The XT4 and XT5 do not look anymore special than the Equinox and Blazer. GM is retreating Cadillac back to value pricing and away from offering anything that isn’t derivative. The C8 literally looks like they pasted Corvette styling cues on the Acura NSX shape, and their sole innovation is to sell it for $75k.

I’m gobsmacked by it all.